Comments on: Our Democracy Needs Students

By: adamm

adamm — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:26:48 +0000

O this is not one administrations fault. It is a build up. But everyone seems to blame Bush for it cause that’s all the media did for 8 years. Its more than one persons faults. Hell its both parties fault. But i want to state that Obama owns car companys now. Okay correction the feds own car companies now. Talk about not what the founding fathers wanted? I dont want goverment owning production. We will owe 14 trillion and think about that. Here is my comparison: a trillion seconds is 32,000 years. Now times that by 14 and you’ll say ouch. Im not paying 2/3 of my income in taxes to get rid of that. Thats wrong. I disagree with Obama and the democratic party on many things but i agree on one thing: something must be done. But this change uve brought isnt the change i want. God save us and bless americ.
Take care,
Andrew Damm

By: Nathan Peereboom

Nathan Peereboom — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:40:23 +0000

ok- damm and gubics, i really don’t think we can peg one person for the whole American Dillema at this point. The expanse of our catastrophie has been growing since the vietnam war and it won’t be obama’s fault if he doesn’t fix everything (although that would be nice). Bush didn’t make all the bad decisions alone; his entire administration was a train wreck. And interestingly, Obama’s legacy won’t be defined solely by his own decisions. Social security has been crumbling for the last few decades; neither of the two men can be wholey responsible for that. Our budget problems are origanlly the bush administration’s fault but our current gov’t is definently adding to the numbers. Andrew, i admire your long sightedness (I hope your right) and gubics, i agree with you.
Keep talking

By: adamm

adamm — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:46:42 +0000

Gubics i hate to tell you this but John Mccain was not a bush man i actually didnt want him in office but next to obama he was the better choice in my opinion. And The professor at college didnt make them but being in the classroom with them shapes ur opinions and ideals because your spending allot of time with them. And You say that Obama can successfully run this country. That has yet to be determined. Let me know how successful he is when things like social security implode and we owe 14 trillion dollars that someone has to pay off. I hope im wrong but my common sense is telling me im on track. O and by the way Bush was know bad president. you can argue all you want but just look at this. The most famous people in history. Those who are remembered. Died hated or pist poor but were recognized for their achievements later. We need a forum instead of article comments lol.
Peace and take care,
Andrew Damm

By: Nathan Peereboom

Nathan Peereboom — Sat, 30 May 2009 02:06:41 +0000

Ok, gubics, i agree with you until this comment:

“you are right in saying that many voters ill-informed voters voted for Obama, hence the incredibly large turnout of African-American voters…The sad thing is that this paradigm of ill-informed voters will never cease to exist.”

are african-american people inherently ‘ill-informed?’
please explain!
thanks

By: agubics81

agubics81 — Fri, 29 May 2009 22:55:49 +0000

Damm, I disagree with your claim that many students voted for Mr. Obama because their professors told them to do so. One thing that the Obama campaign stressed, correctly or incorrectly, was that John McCain was another one of Bush’s men that had been running Washington for the past 8 years. Because the economy was tanking and because Bush was running the country at the time and because McCain is apparently one of Bush’s men, McCain would therefore not be good at running the country. And the Obama campaign was successful in stressing this to the young voters, who are traditionally supporters of change/rebellion/etc/etc. But you are right in saying that many voters ill-informed voters voted for Obama, hence the incredibly large turnout of African-American voters. But the same goes for John McCain in that many ill-informed people voted for him. The sad thing is that this paradigm of ill-informed voters will never cease to exist. But either way, this argument is pretty far off the point of the essay. :p

By: adamm

adamm — Thu, 28 May 2009 02:54:26 +0000

I also want to say that this is my opinion dont try and slay me for having it but, if the younger people and even college students did the research themselves instead of listening to their very liberal professors. I Think that more people would have supported john mccain over Mr. Obama.

By: kgibbons

kgibbons — Thu, 21 May 2009 02:49:38 +0000

No children can’t vote, but when they don’t become involved and at least familiar with the issues as children then they don’t suddenly turn 18 and magically become intrested. Its a habit that needs forming at an earlier stage.

-By the way nate, I liked the sarcasm there.

By: Luke27

Luke27 — Sun, 17 May 2009 04:38:18 +0000

Children can vote?

By: npeereboom

npeereboom — Tue, 12 May 2009 22:12:48 +0000

ldgriff made some pretty solid points there, i will reconsider my entire political outlook; thanks for the advice–

By: Idgriff

Idgriff — Tue, 12 May 2009 20:42:09 +0000

Dude, I don’t know what you’re even trying to say, bro. I can’t even vote yet – what am I gonna do? Am I going to vote? No. Why would I go try to vote, when I cannot even vote, neither can you! You see, when you get older, like me, you will realize that voting is lame. I would decide to vote if I would just get a sticker – cause thats cool – but I can’t vote! So there, no sticker, no vote (which I can’t do) duh! I think I have effectively deconstructed your argument. Thank you.